13 or 18 inch wide standard seat, contoured seat, or cane bucket seat? As far as the front seat edge angling down slightly. The standard seat that comes on the Old Town Guide 119. The seat in the 119 is placed about in the right spot, so it's good to go from the store. Old Town Canoes does not make a yoke specifically for the Old Town Guide 119 or the Discovery 119. If you like a low maintenance canoe then replacing your existing seats with a blow-molded polyethylene seat is the way to go. If going together but in solo canoes, they will also have some recommendations as well. By Orey10m, November 5 in Buy - Sell - Trade. The seat modification was a simple one. I looked at a many different makes and models, all way more expensive than the Old Town Guide 119. 56 lbs / 25.4 kg. I do use a shorter paddle though when using the traditional paddle, because I am sitting lower in this canoe and am closer to the water. That can be a little annoying as ever fifteen or twenty minutes on my last trip I was adjusting my lifejacket down on my torso to where it feels more comfortable. Handles great! A couple days ago I took my canoe out for a few hours and noticed immediately that the seat modification worked.
Let me know if you have any questions about the Old Town Guide 119. Most outfitters also sell off their Kevlar canoes every season because they get to beat up. Longer and more narrow canoes are going to be faster when you paddle them. Like the others in the series, this solo canoe is agile, stable and easy to handle. I take good care of my possessions… but, I plan to use this new canoe on many river and lakes that have underwater rocks and stumps. I saw this in the video, but have any of you guy's done this and how did it work. To be honest I was not overly fond of it either. If you treat your poly canoe just the same as you do a Kevlar canoe it is going to last for as long as you live. All customers get FREE Shipping on orders over $25 shipped by Amazon ... Old Town Sportsman BigWater PDL 132 Pedal Fishing Kayak (Marsh Camo) $2,599.99 $ 2,599. I have a 119 and moved mine back a dropped it. Required fields are marked *. I’ve had my canoe in the water half a dozen times since buying it, twice to the Boundary Waters. On small lakes or streams I don’t bother too much with that anymore. When using a two bladed kayak paddle in the Old Town Guide 119 I didn’t have any issues with stability when underway. WTB Old Town Discovery 119/Guide/Pack WTB Old Town Discovery 119/Guide/Pack. It’s specially made for Dicks Sporting Goods. Also, if you talk to any outfitter in the Superior/Quetico region they complain about how renters abuse their Kevlar canoes because they bump over rocks and beaver damns with them, how they paddle them up into shore and don’t do ‘wet’ landings. I love my Guide 119 though. They used to be made out of a material called Ryolex, which I am sure you are familiar with and know is no longer available. Being honest the most unstable part of using this canoe, and most any canoe, is when you are getting in and out of it. The color… I’ll live with it. It will track just fine that way. https://paddling.com/gear/old-town-canoe-kayak-guide-119-canoe I know this may seem high, but I like a higher seat and want to be able to get my feet under seat to kneel. The OT Pack canoe you mentioned were sweet little canoes. Cutting the ash for the seat frame. Don’t get me wrong – I love Kevlar canoes. While I find the seat comfortable, the front edge does seem to be lower than the back. But when I go out on larger bodies of water I have some weight up front 95% of the time. It took me a while to make up my mind on getting a new canoe, but once I had my sights set on the Old Town Guide 119 I plowed ahead and purchased one. Your email address will not be published. THESE SEATS DO NOT FIT ALL OLD TOWN MODELS. I have looked at a few, but haven’t done much research into it. 08-09-2016 04:40 AM #7. mr. lucky. I’ve got to convince my wife to let me turn our yard into a boatyard! How is initial stability? Same boat different seats and color. My question is do you think that foot supports (braces) can be added similar to the ones that come standard on the discovery 119? I was going to try to leave the seat up high, but will it make it to tippy. While I do find that the Old Town Guide 119 has a comfortable seat, it does feel like the front edge sloped down a little too much. Available at … This was an easy fix. For me when I am canoe tripping alone I don’t exactly worry about pouring on a lot of speed. There were a few little things that bugged me about it, nothing major, just minor little issues. Lightweight and durable. It is cost friendly, which is nice, but it is also a stable platform and easy to handle/maneuver. 99. It took about eight minutes to add the spacers. it fixed that issue for me. Your email address will not be published. I am very familiar with Kevlar and it’s origins – you are very much correct; it is impressive and has many fantastic uses. I adjusted that in my Old Town Guide 119 by adding a nylon spacer to the back seat posts that dropped the back down half an inch. I have two oars both brand new also. Absolutely no issues. It is a solid little solo canoe for sure. Even with drip guards on the paddle I was getting drips inside the canoe and on my lap. Luckily all three of those issues were minor and easy to overcome. I look forward to checking out your other articles and reviews to help me make a decision. In the grand scheme of things, what I don’t like about the Old Town Guide 119 are pretty minor! So I went online and found a company (Essex Industries) that makes a detachable yoke that is universal for many canoes. I’ve greatly appreciated the threads I’ve found to help me decide how to modify mine. With all that out in the open I have to admit I was surprised at how stable I felt in the Old Town Guide 119. Hey, thanks for sharing this article!I’m not necessarily a canoe fan, but my dad is slowly getting into it. So a little change of direction… I spent all day Friday and most of Saturday thinking through the positioning I wanted to use to add the second seat to my 119. My main problem with these types of models is my size in relation to the seat – I’m tall and sometimes I just can’t find a comfortable paddling position. When sitting in a kayak style seat you have a back rest and will want a life-jacket with no padding on the lower back of the jacket. I’m also pushing towards six foot two inches tall. I really like the Old Town Guide 119. You can also find them on the Old Town website for around $50. But worth mentioning. When the OT Packs pop up for sale on places like Ebay or Craig’s List they sell fast. It has to do with the canoe width, the physicality of the paddler, and the paddle being used. It took me a while to make up my mind on getting a new canoe, but once I had my sights set on the Old Town Guide 119 I plowed ahead and purchased one. Relate Video Chicken Coop Old Town Guide 119 Seat Modification But I also have my experiences and know what I prefer which is why I bought the Old Town Guide 119 – I live in the upper midwest in canoe-country. I’ve noticed that my usual life-jacket, because it has lower back padding/flotation, pushes up on me when sitting in my canoe. I plan to share more information about my Old Town Guide 119 as I get out there and use it. The seat depression allows a more solid hold and helps Buying a $30 ash wood yoke and installing it myself is also rather minor. All things are relative. No more drips! What I’m getting it as that I’m tall and have weight up top… not a good thing for canoe paddling… usually. WEIGHT CAPACITY I use it anyway, but wouldn’t mind getting a 119. Have fun on your trip this year with your friend! It actually made me a bit more worry or, let’s say, more confused since there are too many of different opinions out there. With all that said I do stand by my comments concerning Kevlar vs poly. Wise Economy Low Back Seat. I bought it online, you can read more about them and purchase one by clicking here. In the grand scheme of things, what I don’t like about the Old Town Guide 119 are pretty minor! I replaced with web seat that I prefer. That’s it! So to sum it up – Initial stability is fine but takes a little getting used to getting in and out of the canoe. If you’re just getting started, this little trick might make the difference in how comfortable you feel. Is the Old Town Guide 119 a stable canoe for fishing and paddling? Comfortable seat with backrest. Agile, stable and easy to handle, it's even well-suited for a double-bladed paddle. Because of the position of the seats in these canoes the yoke would be best placed almost across where the seats are mounted. Viewing 3 posts - 1 through 3 (of 3 total) It does have a slight keel running down the center that helps, but by far the double bladed paddle is perfect for paddling in the Guide 119. It can take a beating, can hold a lot of gear, maybe is not the lightest canoe out there but far more durable than most, and it is surprisingly stable. There were a few little things that bugged me about it, nothing major, just minor little issues. But, I find it takes very little effort with your hands forward on the gunnels to keep the front of the canoe from flipping up to much. I have had many OT Pack canoes, all in kevlar, that were used in the wilds of Alaska and were used ‘very’ hard for 8 years. I’m pleased with how comfortable I feel in this canoe! The canoe I have now is getting a little rough around the edges, so this spring I am thinking about replacing it. Yes, it is a good solo canoe for somebody who is getting into canoeing. I’m pleased with my new canoe and looking forward to getting out in on a few camping trips. If you want to track straight and have less issues with the wind catching you in this canoe, you are going to want to use a double bladed kayak style paddle. Blog › Forums › Fly Fishing › Old Town Guide/Discovery 119 versus Pack 12 This topic has 2 replies, 2 voices, and was last updated Apr 15, 2014 at 9:34 am by Zach Matthews . See the image below:  You can see that the lower back area is mesh, and does not have any flotation bulk… this jacket is designed to be worn for kayaking comfort or with seats that have lower back rests. As I write this post I am down to 260. (Check out my review of the Guide 119 versus a Swift Adirondack Pack 12. I don’t plan on putting my new canoe through any major beatings on purpose, hoping to bounce it off rocks and other underwater obstructions or drag it over the ground from my SUV to the lake. It’s a different motion and bothers my shoulder less. It can feel a little ‘iffy’ during that transition. Last August in 2018 I broke down and bought an Old Town Guide 119. You can learn more and buy one here: Dicks Sporting Goods. I have a few more major outings I plan on using it on this year, along with smaller day trips in mind. Great little craft flat bottom hull. Is that going to be a problem? Marked as used because I drilled a few extra holes to fit in older canoe, they will not effect performance,hardware included, didn't work out the way I liked. I totally agree on the camo color of the Old Town Guide 119. Thank you for this great review on Old Town 119 canoe. Take it from the words of experience. To be honest I am glad I did. I could certainly lower the seat another inch or two and make it ever better. I was actually thinking of getting some and installing them last year, but decided I would wait a bit and get in some paddles this spring before deciding either way. If you are canoeing with a couple buddies and they are both in solo Kevlar canoes using single bladed paddles you may find yourself just as fast or moving a little faster if you use a double bladed paddle. -- Last Updated: Aug-26-14 11:29 AM EST -- Now that I have a foot brace in my Guide 119 I want to replace the seat. Secondary stability is just fine, but feels a little off when using a single bladed paddle in this canoe because I sit lower in it than other canoes I have used. Mine has been down multiple rivers including the New River. However, I am also going to use my Old Town Guide 119 on canoe trips into the wilderness, like the BWCA and Quetico, and that means portaging. Required fields are marked *. The seat requires no maintenance and will serve you comfortably for many, many years. 2. The OT Pack model were 12 footers and weighed 29 pounds stripped. I would suggest that if you get one to take out it a few times on a couple calm mornings to get the feel for it. I’m a bigger guy and have no issues. If you are going on a canoe trip there is a good chance you will be going through an outfitter… maybe. I’m glad I got it. Just a quick question, is Old Town 119 also a suitable canoe for someone, like me, who never have used a canoe before? Yes, before I go on my next major wilderness cane trip in my Old Town Guide 119, I will be purchasing a new life jacket to increase my paddling comfort. I ordered a new cane seat from Harmony and replaced the angler seat. Less so with their canoes made of poly because they can take more abuse and be used over multiple seasons. Most people probably buy this canoe with the intent of unloading it at a boat landing or perhaps within a few yards of a body of water. Most can move along at a pretty good clip. An easy fix which only cost me about $3 at the hardware store. While the canoe only weighs around 48 pounds, it didn’t come with a portaging yoke, … But I also have my experiences and know what I prefer which is why I bought the Old Town Guide 119 – I live in the upper midwest in canoe-country. While the canoe only weighs around 48 pounds, it didn’t come with a portaging yoke, nor does Old Town Canoes sell one for it. I had been looking pretty hard at a few different solo canoes from various manufactures, but on a gut hunch I went with the Guide 119. That little bit of weight up front can make a huge difference when first getting comfortable paddling. Whoever gave you the information you state above was way off. My specific likes I have for the Old Town Guide 119: I’ve only had my new canoe for a short while now. And I did the same thing – used a collapsible 5 gallon water container. For example, the Discovery 119 canoe by Old Town has an MSRP of $699.99, and is a lightweight canoe, that is also marketed as being a great choice for a double-bladed paddle. Anyone familiar with kevlar knows it outlasts and outperforms poly in a canoe application. I have an old aluminum 17 footer that just sits and never gets used. So without further ado let’s jump into the specifics on my new canoe and why I decided on the Guide 119. After 100+ years of designing the most forward-thinking watercrafts, Old Town has developed the most comfortable kayak seating in the industry. Canoes come in a few shapes and sizes. For any portaging over 100 yards it would be nice to have a yoke. The paddle I am using with my old Town Guide 119 is the Bending Branches Glass Slice Solo 280cm. I gotta disagree with your statement concerning kevlar vs. poly. The Old Town Guide 119 is going to make this a great canoe season! It seems many of the popular solo Kevlar canoes out there are narrow and between fourteen and sixteen feet long. Of course, I have asked for help from those who already are way more familiar with canoes than I am. I place the yoke just slightly in front of where the seat is. Also, if I want to take it on a BWCA trip into the wilderness I know I can do that to. It meets all of my needs for a solo canoe: I can load it on my car alone, it holds enough camping gear for a several days, good stability, tracks well, adequate speed, can use it all over the Mid-West, and it was easily affordable when compared to Kevlar canoes that cost five times more. I can carry this canoe for hundreds of rods if I have to without little effort, thanks to that quick detach yoke. If you’ve spent any time on Old Town’s website you will not have seen the Guide 119 there anywhere. My biggest challenge with the 119 is the camo colour. 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